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# Border Crossings, Burner Phones, and Surviving Interrogation in China with Josh Summers from All Things Secured
- URL: https://techlore.tech/border-crossings-burner-phones-and-surviving-interrogation-in-china-with-josh-summers-from-all-things-secured/
- Published: 2026-08-29T16:00:59.000Z
- Updated: 2026-08-29T16:00:58.000Z
- Description: Techlore Talks brings you in-depth conversations with the experts at the forefront of digital rights, privacy and security.
- Author: Tori
- Tags: Techlore Talks

[Border Crossings, Burner Phones, and Surviving Interrogation with Josh Summers from All Things Secured | Techlore TalksJosh Summers spent a decade living in western China before 14 police officers showed up at his door, accused him of espionage, and confiscated every device his family owned. This Techlore Talks interview covers what 17 days of interrogation taught him about digital privacy while traveling, and…![](https://storage.ghost.io/c/a2/66/a26623cd-de8a-40f5-bb97-cc1265613cf7/content/images/icon/favicon-636b619b27c8932b15adac78178e70ebdf1f2c3a33de896176872b88cb3a5e48-289b73bb-9c49-4669-9d1a-d7f4d54dae07.ico)Border Crossings, Burner Phones, and Surviving Interrogation with Josh Summers from All Things Secured![](https://storage.ghost.io/c/a2/66/a26623cd-de8a-40f5-bb97-cc1265613cf7/content/images/thumbnail/MzdjYi5qcGc-fae46a4b-13f9-4ca7-96d6-be3737659c5a.jpg)](https://share.transistor.fm/s/4fda4de9)

Josh Summers spent a decade living in western China before 14 police officers showed up at his door, accused him of espionage, and confiscated every device his family owned. This Techlore Talks interview covers what 17 days of interrogation taught him about digital privacy while traveling, and the practical steps that could make the difference for you.

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