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# Is the World Too Dependent on American Tech? (Dutch Journalist Interview)
- URL: https://techlore.tech/is-the-world-too-dependent-on-american-tech-dutch-journalist-interview/
- Published: 2026-01-01T00:52:00.000Z
- Updated: 2026-04-07T23:24:11.000Z
- Description: Techlore Talks brings you in-depth conversations with the experts at the forefront of digital rights, privacy and security.
- Author: Henry Fisher
- Tags: Techlore Talks

This is a different kind of Techlore Talks. Henry sits down with Marloes de Koning, a Dutch tech reporter from NRC. This wide-ranging conversation explores tech policy from a journalist's perspective, and asks hard questions about age verification, digital sovereignty, news consumption, the rules & role of journalism, and more.

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Listen to the podcast on [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/techlore-talks/id1652151010), [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/1qjWVCYgRcZFL9c8FsLLo0), or any [podcast app](https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/665039d6f749480012b06ac1). You can also watch Techlore Talks on [YouTube](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3KeV6Ui%5F4CZRb5Z4qZjsIGZrUWbDc3Mn) or [Techlore.TV](https://techlore.tv/w/p/iZqf9xe1fE7Ss4pebDKd42)

#### Episode Timestamps

00:00 INTRO  
01:27 EARLY YEARS IN JOURNALISM  
02:25 LEARNING & WRITING ABOUT TECH  
04:28 DIGITAL SOVEREIGNTY  
07:08 LOCATION OF DATA/COMPANIES  
09:01 THE RULES OF JOURNALISM  
10:31 THE ROLE OF JOURNALISM  
19:11 INCORRECT ASSUMPTIONS  
20:34 HOW TO FIND TRUSTWORTHY NEWS  
30:06 IS CONSUMING NEWS EVEN WORTH IT?  
34:55 AGE VERIFICATION  
45:13 DO PEOPLE CARE ABOUT PRIVACY?  
53:18 MARLOES' DIGITAL RIGHTS JOURNEY  
55:19 WHAT'S THE END GOAL?  
57:53 HOW TO FOLLOW MARLOES  
59:06 OUTRO

#### Episode Sources

• NRC: https://www.nrc.nl  
• Twitter/X: https://x.com/MarloesdeK  
• Marloes' Age Verification article: https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2024/04/19/het-hoofdpijndossier-van-de-porno-industrie-controleren-hoe-oud-je-bezoekers-zijn-a4196562  
• Marloes' Tornado Cash article: https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2024/03/25/hoe-een-rus-uit-amstelveen-met-zijn-cryptomixer-voor-de-rechter-in-den-bosch-belandt-a4194203  
• Marloes' Birthday of the Cookie article: https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2024/10/11/hoe-het-internet-een-geheugen-kreeg-a4868671