It's Time for the VPN Industry to Innovate (Obscura Interview)

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You don't have to trust Obscura—you just have to trust that not both Obscura and Mullvad are compromised. Henry sat down with Carl, former Bitcoin Core developer and founder of Obscura VPN, to discuss how it's the first VPN that mathematically can't log your activity, what makes it censorship-resistant against networks like the Great Firewall, and what it really means to build privacy that's more than "a pinky promise."

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Episode Timestamps

0:00:00 INTRO
00:01:50 CARL'S BACKGROUND
00:10:47 APPLE'S PRIVATE RELAY
00:17:11 TRUSTLESS MODELS
00:19:05 MULTI-PARTY RELAY PARTNERSHIP
00:21:39 TRADITIONAL MULTI-HOP
00:23:39 CENSORSHIP RESISTANCE
00:27:33 MULLVAD VS. OBSCURA TRAFFIC
00:29:35 EXIT IP
00:30:18 BLOCKS, CAPTCHA, & SPLIT TUNNELING
00:31:16 CUSTOM DNS
00:32:41 PARTNERING WITH MULLVAD
00:36:05 OBSCURA VS. PRIVATE RELAY
00:37:10 OBSCURA VS. MULLVAD
00:38:33 OBSCURA VS. DECENTRALIZED VPNS
00:40:57 OBSCURA VS. TOR
00:41:58 REPRODUCIBLE BUILDS
00:50:23 CLIENTS & DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE
00:55:24 SPEED
00:59:06 DEFAULTS VS. CUSTOMIZATION
01:00:48 PRICING
01:02:43 OPEN SOURCE
01:03:34 THE OBSCURA TEAM
01:05:39 THOUGHTS ON THE VPN INDUSTRY
01:07:49 OUTRO

Episode Sources

• Obscura: https://obscura.net
• GitHub: https://github.com/Sovereign-Engineering/obscuravpn-client
• Trust, 2-Party Relays, and QUIC: https://obscura.net/blog/bootstrapping-trust/
• Mullvad: https://mullvad.net