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# The Email Provider Google Doesn't Want You to Know About (Fastmail Interview)
- URL: https://techlore.tech/the-email-provider-google-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about-fastmail-interview-techlore-talks/
- Published: 2025-11-19T04:59:00.000Z
- Updated: 2026-04-07T23:23:33.000Z
- Description: Techlore Talks brings you in-depth conversations with the experts at the forefront of digital rights, privacy and security.
- Author: Henry Fisher
- Tags: Techlore Talks

Ricardo Signes, Chief Engineer at Fastmail, explains why Gmail's email experience has become increasingly fragmented, and what it would take to actually fix the decades-old IMAP protocol that powers most of the internet. We dive deep into JMAP (the modern replacement Gmail won't adopt), privacy-by-design vs. encryption, and the hidden trade-offs between convenience and security that no one talks about. If you've noticed your email client feeling broken, this interview reveals why.

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#### Episode Sources

• Fastmail: <https://fastmail.com/>  
• Fastmail Values Statement: <https://fastmail.com/about/values>  
• Cyrus IMAP/JMAP Server (open source): <https://www.cyrusimap.org/>  
• JMAP Standard (RFC 8620): <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8620>  
• Web Push Standard (RFC 8030): <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8030>  
• Signal (for encrypted messaging): <https://signal.org>  
• Fastmail Data Transparency Report: <https://fastmail.com/about/transparency>