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# Why F-Droid Still Can't Get on iPhone (FSFE Lawyer Interview)
- URL: https://techlore.tech/why-f-droid-still-cant-get-on-iphone-fsfe-lawyer-interview/
- Published: 2026-01-11T00:20:57.000Z
- Updated: 2026-04-10T03:08:11.000Z
- Description: Techlore Talks brings you in-depth conversations with the experts at the forefront of digital rights, privacy and security.
- Author: Henry Fisher
- Tags: Techlore Talks

The Digital Markets Act is a can opener for Big Tech's walled gardens, forcing Apple, Google, and Microsoft to open their platforms whether they like it or not. Henry sat down with Lucas Lasota from the FSFE (Free Software Foundation of Europe) to understand what the DMA actually does, why Big Tech is fighting it in court, and what it means for open source software and your digital freedom.

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#### Episode Timestamps

00:00:00 INTRO  
00:01:36 WHAT IS THE FSFE?  
00:04:12 LUCAS' ROLE AT FSFE  
00:05:44 INTRO TO THE DMA  
00:09:45 THOUGHTS ON REGULATION  
00:12:47 PUBLIC MONEY, PUBLIC CODE  
00:21:25 BREAKDOWN OF THE DMA  
00:30:54 DMA ENFORCEMENTS  
00:31:44 INTEROPERABILITY  
00:36:20 DMA ENFORCEMENTS (CONT'D)  
00:38:50 DMA CRITICISMS  
00:50:41 USB-C ON IPHONES  
00:53:03 APPLE'S "MALICIOUS COMPLIANCE"  
00:56:57 UNDERSTANDING THE EU  
01:02:12 EU COMMISSION & OTHER ORGANIZATIONS  
01:06:58 DMA'S GLOBAL INFLUENCE  
01:11:57 BIG TECH + INTERPRETATION OF LAW  
01:18:23 OUTRO

#### Episode Sources

• Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE): https://fsfe.org  
• Free Software Foundation (FSF US): https://www.fsf.org  
• Public Money, Public Code campaign: https://publiccode.eu